A few days ago, Katy Perry gathered celebrities and political commentators for a live streaming dinner party, Witness World Wide, to discuss current events. During dinner, actress Amanda Seales (Insecure) shared her views on white privilege in a candid exchange with Caitlyn Jenner. Seales confronted Jenner on her reluctance to discuss race during the dinner, and the heated discussion streamed to Perry’s YouTube channel.
Check out the above clip or the read written transcript of the conversation below.
“It’s an insult to me that you’re not listening to what I’m saying,” Seales told Jenner. “If this is a conversation about having conversations, then we have to be listening to each other.”
Seales: The reason I am so passionate ― and I’m not hostile, I’m passionate ― is because I’ve had such a different experience in this country than you.
Seales: Because as a black woman, the government is so much in my life, and it always has been… I think there’s a lot to understand for why people are talking the way they talk about different things. I understand why you’re talking the way you’re talking.
Jenner: I just don’t understand. I just said I believe in this country.
Seales: Yes. You can say that in a way that I cannot. Because you’ve had a different experience. Because this country is here for you. This country ain’t here for me in the same way, sis.”